Comments on: “JOIN THE NAVY SEE THE WORLD!” – The Price of Dignity http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:42:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Praguetory http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-339 Praguetory Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:48:17 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-339 Well written post. There is something very unsurprising about this episode. The most depressing part is that we can all be in agreement, but don't believe that any of our leaders will take these matters by the scruff of their necks. Well written post. There is something very unsurprising about this episode. The most depressing part is that we can all be in agreement, but don’t believe that any of our leaders will take these matters by the scruff of their necks.

]]> By: jameshigham http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-320 jameshigham Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:11:13 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-320 Virtually everybody is posting on the issue and my opinion is certainly firming along the lines you wrote. It's a very strange saga altogether. Virtually everybody is posting on the issue and my opinion is certainly firming along the lines you wrote. It’s a very strange saga altogether.

]]> By: Bel is thinking : Blog Archive : Links http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-312 Bel is thinking : Blog Archive : Links Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:48:24 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-312 [...] Morag considers armed forces recruitment ads and wonders if perhaps the true nature of what the forces are about has been badly downplayed. Also some analysis of the MoD’s thinking. A very interesting and thought-provoking post. [...] [...] Morag considers armed forces recruitment ads and wonders if perhaps the true nature of what the forces are about has been badly downplayed. Also some analysis of the MoD’s thinking. A very interesting and thought-provoking post. [...]

]]> By: dolbyn http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-311 dolbyn Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:36:14 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-311 Am sure questions about how they were capturd will be answerd in the movie ;-) Am sure questions about how they were capturd will be answerd in the movie ;-)

]]> By: Ray http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-310 Ray Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:23:14 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-310 Well said, Morag. May I also make the point that perhaps the MoD calculated that while we are all caught up in the issue of them selling their stories, our attention as a nation will be diverted from one very important question: how the blue blazes did they come to be captured in the first place? Well said, Morag. May I also make the point that perhaps the MoD calculated that while we are all caught up in the issue of them selling their stories, our attention as a nation will be diverted from one very important question: how the blue blazes did they come to be captured in the first place?

]]> By: Ian Grey http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-309 Ian Grey Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:15:41 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-309 A thoughtfully written piece and I agree with your sentiments. As I was on a North Sea Ferry for 3+ days last week I missed the media release-fest and I couldn't get up the enthusiasm to read about it in the Sunday paper. I have to say that I don't trust either Government to not lie about it, which is a sorry state of affairs. A thoughtfully written piece and I agree with your sentiments.

As I was on a North Sea Ferry for 3+ days last week I missed the media release-fest and I couldn’t get up the enthusiasm to read about it in the Sunday paper.

I have to say that I don’t trust either Government to not lie about it, which is a sorry state of affairs.

]]> By: dolbyn http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-308 dolbyn Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:49:29 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-308 Roll on the summer when we have the next sporting event and we all get told that we cannot wave union jacks or st george crosses lest it offend anyone :-( Roll on the summer when we have the next sporting event and we all get told that we cannot wave union jacks or st george crosses lest it offend anyone :-(

]]> By: dolbyn http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-307 dolbyn Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:47:19 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-307 ok read it - we agree :-) i've not read any of the interviews in full rather have been skimming various blogs and news sources, so the following may be misreported.... The gifts they were given were not confiscated by the MOD but rather are on ebay.one of the sailors is complaining the iranians kept his iPod ( lets hope he wasnt playing it when captured ) Faye was seperated from the men and dealt with by other women who measured her for her suit, they told her she would not see her child again, the men were blindfolded and had their necks flicked and were threatened with prison. Faye said she was scared of being raped and the men seemd scared that they would be beheaded , "they had all seen the videos". So in fact it seems the fears we sent them in with were far worse than the actual treatement they recieved. By painting the bogey man so scarily the west did more to break the 15 than the iranians ever did. Finally i dont know which is the more scary thought - that these 15 are typical of those who serve, of that the iranians just got very very lucky. ok read it – we agree :-)

i’ve not read any of the interviews in full rather have been skimming various blogs and news sources, so the following may be misreported…. The gifts they were given were not confiscated by the MOD but rather are on ebay.one of the sailors is complaining the iranians kept his iPod ( lets hope he wasnt playing it when captured ) Faye was seperated from the men and dealt with by other women who measured her for her suit, they told her she would not see her child again, the men were blindfolded and had their necks flicked and were threatened with prison.

Faye said she was scared of being raped and the men seemd scared that they would be beheaded , “they had all seen the videos”. So in fact it seems the fears we sent them in with were far worse than the actual treatement they recieved. By painting the bogey man so scarily the west did more to break the 15 than the iranians ever did.

Finally i dont know which is the more scary thought – that these 15 are typical of those who serve, of that the iranians just got very very lucky.

]]> By: dolbyn http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-306 dolbyn Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:37:50 +0000 http://morag.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/%e2%80%9cjoin-the-navy-see-the-world%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-price-of-dignity/#comment-306 here is a quick glib reply so that i can be the first to comment - yay - a) I suspect that the sailers would have lasted less than 2 weeks in the big brother house - i be shilppa would have had greater backbone b) i dont blame the 15 themselves , rather i blame theire superiors for letting them in the armed forces and for not better training them. ok now i will read what you actually wrote :-) here is a quick glib reply so that i can be the first to comment – yay -

a) I suspect that the sailers would have lasted less than 2 weeks in the big brother house – i be shilppa would have had greater backbone

b) i dont blame the 15 themselves , rather i blame theire superiors for letting them in the armed forces and for not better training them.

ok now i will read what you actually wrote :-)

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